Students reprimanded for singing national anthem
Jeff Johnson - OneNewsNow - 7/22/2008 10:40:00 AMBookmark and Share

flagpoleOfficials at the California State Capitol are under fire for stopping a student tour group from singing the national anthem in the capitol rotunda.

 

Launch into an a cappella version of the Star Spangled Banner in the California State Capitol and a group could find themselves facing Capitol Security and officers of the California Highway Patrol. And that is what happened, says Brad Dacus, president of the Pacific Justice Institute, when a group of students touring the capitol, as part of the "City on a Hill" education program, spontaneously began to sing the national anthem.
 
"Upon hearing the students, a security guard there silenced them and said that they could not sing the national anthem unless they had a special permit to do so," explains Dacus. "This was an egregious abuse of discretion and a violation of the First Amendment rights of these students to be able to express patriotism and their love for their country."

 

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Dacus adds the singing was not planned in advance and was not, in any sense of the word, a protest. "These students were not being disruptive in any way of anything that was taking place. There was no other event going on. There was no function of government that was being interrupted," he contends.

 

He argues that "[s]uch spontaneous expression of love for...country should never, ever be stifled by government when it's in no way creating a disturbance of any kind...."
 
Pacific Justice Institute sent a letter to the Chief Sergeant at Arms for the Capitol informing him that citizens have a First Amendment right to express themselves in the capitol rotunda as long as they are not being disruptive, and that any future attempt to interfere with that right will result in appropriate legal action.

 


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Comments on this article:
  • "Inflamatory? What happened is outrageous. Americans shouldn't need a permit to sing the National Anthem in their own state government buildings. If California doesn't want to be American, then they should secede. I would welcome their departure."
  • "Why should any other visitor have to listen to a bunch of people singing --- regardless of WHAT they were trying to sing? So what if it was the National Anthem? They lack consideration for other visitors. Suppose they had started performing rap music? Would that have been OK, providfed it was "spontaneous"?"
  • "Very disturbing but what do you expect here in Kookie California, land of fruits and nuts. I'd move out of here in a heartbeat if I possibly could. Many of us are wondering how long before real judgment really comes. The fires were just the beginning."
  • "Wow. Freedom rings less and less in this country, doesn't it?"
  • "What a better place to sing the National Anthem than in a state capitol. What a show of patriotism. Blessings on those students for being bold and steadfast in what they believe. Let the rest of the nation observe and follow suit. Praise the Lord!!!!!"
  • "How is it that our own government would interfere with something like this? What is happening in California?"
  • "For a nation renown for its "Freedom of Speech", it amazes me how often these days the government seems to try to squelch it."
  • "What is the difference? If the old Russia had taken the U.S.A. over wouldn't you see the same actions. Don't sing, read, quote, speak of, or think about America or the truth of what it really stands for. I think Hitler would've loved these government zombies that march to the beat of the heartless and empty souled self worshipers. What is the government, country, or nation these self worshipers are loyal to, or in aligence with, or commited to, or faithful to? I'm sure these students got the real experience afforded them by the state; what an eye opening and educational experience."
  • "All the officials responsible should be charged with "treason;" during WW-2 they would have; Why has it become so popular to be so "anti-American? When did we stop being Americans & become Socialists?"
  • "They would have been applauded had they sang it in Spanish! I love the America my grandfather faught for in WW2, but I'm beginning to wonder where it has all gone. This state is pathetic."
  • "The issue is not what orders the security guard had, this is America and if anyone wants to sing the National Anthem in a govt. building, how can that not be allowed?"
  • "Once again, a story which provokes a lot of comment! 5 stars, I say! I wonder how long Sodom and the surrounding communities burned. The person who thinks spontaneous sing only happens in the movies / on stage, has never been to a service of worship where The Holy Spirit is the Leader. More's the pity.... Do it again kids!"
  • "Why should California be blamed for liberalism, We voted for Hillary, other states voted for Obama, there's your liberal communist muslim!"
  • "This story can also be found at http://www.flashreport.org/blog.php?authID=2008012914265275 as well. The way you look at this story is determined by your own perspective. For me, this demonstrates a continual withdrawal of our freedom to express ourselves in a public forum. The students at this leadership conference have been singing in the rotunda as a tradition for several years without a permit. Why now? Why did no less than 4 CHP officers and two sergeant-at-arms descend upon the group demanding to know why they were singing without a permit. It appears that someone called security and complained, but it was not one of the dozens of tourists who stopped in their tracks, removed their hats, and clapped appreciatively when the performance ended. God Bless America! These students actually went to get a permit so that they could sing again the following Saturday. You Rock!"
  • "I have read about this incident and the coverage here is inflammatory. The students were "scolded" and told that in order to sing in the rotunda they would need a permit. Not a "special" permit, but just a normal permit like anyone else who'd want to sing in the rotunda. The national has been sung there hundreds of times, maybe thousands, so this story is unnecessarily sensationalistic. There are reasons for regulations and this should be a lesson to the students about that issue -- not that they can't sing the national anthem."
  • "I too pray for the Christians and Patriots still in California. However with the current mindset of the crazies and liberalists of that state, I would be glad to let them go if they wanted to secede. I for one will never go to California again, and I will gladly state that my American state is Arkansas."
  • "Oh Please!! You'll build a wall to keep us out? You can't even build a wall to keep Mexico out, and they were out to start with. Try making English your state language and see what that gets you. Try making marriage between a man and a woman - I can't wait to see how that turns out. Students singing the national anthem should be left alone, even if they are a disruption. In this case, they weren't which explains a lot about the state capitol."
  • "This is really going to far.Someone is trying to take all rights from good people and Christians too.The liberals have been able to do as they please to long.Something will have to give, and it shouldn't be children or Christians."
  • "Anyone trying to stop this group were nonpatriotic Liberals"
  • "To those of you who are saying the whole story isn't being told, you are a bunch of liars. This has been in the news for a while but the mainstream media has refused to pick it up. You are the typical liberals who deceive and lie and try to make consrvatives and those who are true patriots look bad. This is the whole story, period! To the one who says this site gives slanted news, no they give the truth it is you who are too slanted to realize it. You have bought and paid for your lying liberal socialist/fascist/mainstream media and you wouldn't recognize the truth because you are too lazzy to research your subjects and drink from the koolade well taht liberals give you."
  • "If California is willing to secede from the union and take all the libs with them, I would take that deal in a heartbeat. Build the wall (the higher the better). I promise you the conservative states would thrive and the libs would implode. Actually, I would enjoy watching the libs live in the world they create. It would be miserable and pathetic (not to mention decadent and perverse)."
  • "nothing is new about California. if all true Christians would leave the state the state will destroy itself."
  • "A group of teenagers spontaneously bursting into song? Come on, that only happens in musicals. What's the rest of the story?"
  • "Speaking as a native Californian; I can assure everyone that California is not full of "fruits and nuts" nor is it "morally & spiritually" bankrupt! There are plenty of good, moral, christian people that live in this beautiful state. As to the question regarding disruption, the state capital rotunda belongs to the people of California, not the government. Lets not forget we are citizens of the United States, we are guarenteed the freedom to speak or sing if our emotions move us to do so. Truly it took courage for these young people to break out in patriotic song, and I certainly would have joined them had I been there. Its not an agenda, its patriotism, pure and simple."
  • "of course this was a stupid reaction by capitol security, but no less stupid that some of the comments here. if the flyover states don't like the left coast, we'll be glad to leave the union and take all of our fruits and vegies, and our chips and technology. and yes we want to build a wall to keep aliens out, right along the nevada border."
  • "What do you expect from a U.S.Government and State Government that are atheist and not Americans.We need to blame ourselves for putting these sorry people in office.They are taking over this country.WE NEED TO STOP THEM!!!Vote them out at the next election....GOD BLESS AMERICA..IN GOD WE TRUST..GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS.."
  • "A PERMIT necessary to sing The National Anthem? Would they have been silenced if they sang the Mexican National Anthem?"
  • "I agree with one fellow. We really should have both sides of any story when you give an opinion in these circumstances."
  • "If these kids were singing praises to Karl Marx, hero of the perople's republic of Mexifornia, they would have been encouraged, not silenced."
  • "Well it is CA folks so what can you expect from the land of fruits and nuts? Personally these children singing our anthem is something to be proud of regardless of where it is. Some minimum wage security guard controls capitol bldgs? Of course not - bet you if it was some evil muslim chant or some new homo song of praise they would not have been silenced. Make our voices be heard over the PC crap - sue them and win big for violating these children's rights."
  • "California is bankrupt financially, economically, spiritually and morally."
  • "The capital rotunda is not exactly a work environment! How many desks were there? Phones being answered? Presentations being planned? The only people who might have been working there were janitors and security guards."
  • "People, think a minute. You have only heard one side of this debate. You don't know why the guard did this. You don't know what the violation may have been. This guard may have been under orders to not allow singing of any kind. If you read this website, please be aware that much of the time you get only one point of view, and thus an incomplete picture of what is going on."
  • "After doing further searching, I found a video of students doing this two years ago in the same Capitol Rotunda. It appears not only to create a resounding echo, the numerous students (45?) block off a good portion of the balcony. Here, we're not sure where the students were (up or downstairs), but the noise they made is clearly disruptive. Tour groups and families begin their tour at the Rotunda, and will have to wait for the echoing to die down before they can continue their conversations. Further, the students weren't told they can't sing, or can't sing there, but that they needed a permit. This helps to keep things organized; you can't simply allow any group of any size the right to sing or say anything for any amount of time in the capitol dome. What if it were 100 people? Playing heavy metal music at top volume, for four hours? Is that okay as well, because there's no one really "working" there?"
  • "Rather poor article; can't help but wonder about "the rest of the story". Wonder what is required/forbidden by the regulations governing visits to the State Capitol. Am guessing there is a requirement which was not met, regardless of "what song" the students chose to sing!"
  • "will we be amazed when we wake up and Calif.. no longer exists..the "big one" has broken it off from us......."
  • "What an amazing group of young people. We should burst with pride for them! This imo is waaaay cool."
  • "What a shame!!"
  • "The Pacific Justice Institute ought to sue them anyways. Why give these clowns a second chance? If we as Christians ruthlessly stood up for freedom, we would have a better chance at retaining it."
  • "A group of people spontaneously singing in a work environment IS disreputive, regardless of what the song is. The only intended purpose for the article was an attempt to outrage its readers. What type of journalism is this?"
  • "I bet if they were singing the national anthem of Iran nothing would have happened. CA has to move far to the right just to reach communism. CA has become an embarrassment to America. Maybe we ought to vote to throw them out of the US. They don't care about our laws or our morality so let them survive on their own. They can turn the country over to the illegals, demand abortion for all, let homo's marry and we can sit back and watch them fall into the ocean. Their actions are anti American by violating the first amendment, which only applies to their agenda."

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